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Post by LeoVictorBriones (poetremains) on Dec 9, 2008 17:24:33 GMT -5
The heart is a confessional
I will love you with out trying, Without clenching my fist, Without blood sweating from my heart, Without sleepless nights or waking days, Without purple bouquets Or poppies and pomegranates, Without slipping in the mud Or swimming in a frozen lake Without a broken leg or a bruised thigh
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Post by wavemaker9 (Rick D.) on Dec 9, 2008 18:06:30 GMT -5
but I will love you any way.
Leo, there is something about this that is so abstract that it makes me wonder whether it is unconditional love or a prerequisite check list. Very interesting Rick
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Post by purplejacket on Dec 9, 2008 20:17:16 GMT -5
Not an easy one for me to interpret, but I will try. I think you're talking to God or the world or someone who's passed away from your saintly-side. Sounds like a spiritual ideal. I don't mean to make fun of you; I hope it doesn't sound like I am.
There also seem to be a lot unsaid, and I wonder if some of the withouts are from yourself, and others are to or from another. The turning point is the purple bouquets. Everything before that is yours, and everything after that is someone else's. I may be wrong, of course.
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Post by mfwilkie on Dec 9, 2008 21:20:07 GMT -5
leo,
There seems to be so many negatives surrounding this declaraton but there's some else, too.
Why not try coming at this from this angle:
I will love you with the eagerness of beginnings
Maggie
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Post by Tina (Firefly) on Dec 9, 2008 22:34:33 GMT -5
Each reader is left to interpret to whom or to what you may be speaking (just like the finest art of course), but I see this as a mature declaration of a love so natural, so completely right and real that there is no need to die from it..it is a sustaining, steady, concrete and everlasting love which does not require the breaking of legs (or hearts) in order to thrive. It simply is. It is , in fact, the simple,somewhat linear way that you have expressed this which tells the true tale. It feels mature and real. I like it very much.
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Post by wavemaker9 (Rick D.) on Dec 10, 2008 0:37:26 GMT -5
Bingo Tina, that's the interpretation that eluded me. Leo magic.
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Post by ramadevi on Dec 10, 2008 6:46:14 GMT -5
Ditto that bingo. i think Tina's interpretation is spot on. I think the first line opens the flow for those "negatives" to ne interpreted a positives in thier manifestation.
Wonderful write, wonderful heart!
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Post by Sherry Thrasher on Dec 10, 2008 10:12:41 GMT -5
(a tender confessional)
I will love you without trying, without clenching my fist, without blood sweating from my heart, without sleepless nights or waking days, without purple bouquets or poppies and pomegranates, without slipping in mud or swimming a frozen lake without a broken leg or bruised thigh. For I don’t know how to love you but I will love you anyway.
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Post by purplejacket on Dec 10, 2008 10:55:58 GMT -5
I thought of that, but then I thought, why bring all that painful unhappy stuff into the light just to say, "Not that." I got the impression it was more specifically those things that aren't, perhaps because past love (for the same thing, especially) had been leg-breaking and deadly, at least for the spirit. That plus the use of "confessional" brought to me to something more God-oriented.
I don't think this is a simple, linear expression at all. But hey, such controversy is a hallmark of interesting writing, and I mean in no way to diminish your interpretation, only to clarify my own, which I stand by.
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Post by Marion Poirier on Dec 10, 2008 12:11:49 GMT -5
Leo, I don't know you, but I know human nature. I do think this poem is motivated by your experiencing that love hurts. What you are suggesting is love at a spiritual level. Intimacy changes everything; on the other side, asking nothing and wanting nothing are not the same.
This could only work on a spiritual level where there are no expectations.
Marion
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Post by wavemaker9 (Rick D.) on Dec 10, 2008 13:59:27 GMT -5
Love without pain is like a dildo without batteries. It just doesn't give off the same vibe.
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Post by Jo Lynn Ehnes on Dec 10, 2008 14:37:21 GMT -5
You are so right, Rick, Love and Pain are synonymous, one does not exist without the other, not on this plane anyway. As for the other, so right you are about that too, got any batteries on you?
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Post by Sherry Thrasher on Dec 10, 2008 14:45:08 GMT -5
I keep them stock piled around the house. Never know when you'll need a good battery or two. As a matter of fact, I'm economically and environmentally savvy and have rechargeables plugged in all the time. Seems our power goes out quite often around here. Like I said , never know when you'll need a good battery or two. Avoiding the issue and going back to my corner now... [glow=red,2,300][/glow]
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Post by wavemaker9 (Rick D.) on Dec 10, 2008 14:51:41 GMT -5
JL & Sherry. Thanks so much. I was hoping someone else would reply before Leo yelled at me. R
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Post by mfwilkie on Dec 11, 2008 22:00:31 GMT -5
Leo,
Lynn and I were talking about your draft and the effect the last two lines have on it.
Without them, for me, it supports the newness of love or a declaration to one's self of how to handle hoped for love I was reading, and brings the past in as solid support for your opening as Lynn suggests.
I will love you with out trying, Without clenching my fist, Without blood sweating from my heart, Without sleepless nights or waking days, Without purple bouquets Or poppies and pomegranates, Without slipping in the mud Or swimming in a frozen lake Without a broken leg or bruised thigh
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Post by LynnDoiron on Dec 11, 2008 22:03:15 GMT -5
Leo, It's been a long time since I've had the pleasure of reading your work. I have to tell you that when I read the following:
I will love you with out trying, Without clenching my fist, Without blood sweating from my heart, Without sleepless nights or waking days, Without purple bouquets Or poppies and pomegranates, Without slipping in the mud Or swimming in a frozen lake Without a broken leg or a bruised thigh.
~ when I read the above I find not a thing negative, but only the juxtaposition of a sort of glowing hope. Bravo.
lynn
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