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Post by alfredo on Dec 31, 2008 21:04:25 GMT -5
Well before autumn.....
breeze twirls the leaves as white clouds pass before uncommon blue
beneath eighteen cherry trees full of leaf – we flick and fluff until the rug lands entirely to her satisfaction; then drop basket bag and hats and what ever follows.
country loaf, toast sliced, thickly spread with avocado a fresh pepper sprinkling; with icy melon finishing, and at my knee earl gray tea and a circle of waimata brie
...warming under its golden wrap
the nearby Labrador follows every move of the bobbin’ pigeon as it steps forth and back; his hanging tongue follows along just like me – kept at bay by the grey about the jowls
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Post by Marion Poirier on Jan 1, 2009 0:00:23 GMT -5
Happy New Year, Alfredo! I should be doing other things but I've read your poem several times. I know there is some message in the last two stanza's - but who knows what lurks in the heart and mind of a poet? I mostly guess at the intent- sometimes I get it when I can relate by experience. Lots of good imagery here and use of the senses - though, I think it's open to interpretation - so i'll leave it to the experts. Enjoyed the read. Marion P.s. I had to come back to tell you that I think the title is a turn-off. Who wants to read about grey jowls? You can do better than that, my friend.
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Post by mfwilkie on Jan 1, 2009 10:46:47 GMT -5
Read a few times, 'fredo, and still mulling thoughts.
You might think about spacing the italics to the right.
Maggie
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Post by alfredo on Jan 1, 2009 22:55:30 GMT -5
Originally called Picnic ..but I used that title for something else. The parallel drawn between the man’s lost youth and the Labrador (though both look, with hanging tongue, at attractive pigeons) was a late thought …and one perhaps I should have overlooked.
PS thanks M and M for taking the time!
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Post by Marion Poirier on Jan 2, 2009 16:21:35 GMT -5
Hi Alfredo, I like the latest title - a pretty image. Thanks for explaining the analogy in the last stanza, though I think it is extreme and a bit vague - to me. I think you could work on it so that it would come off as satire like I think you intended. M
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Post by LeoVictorBriones (poetremains) on Jan 2, 2009 22:12:19 GMT -5
Alfredo...I think this is a fine imagist poem. I think the first stanza should be dropped. It is nowhere as strong or surprising as the rest of the poem. I would restructure like this:
Beneath eighteen cherry trees (title)
full of leaf –(first line) well before autumn - we flick and fluff until the rug lands entirely to her satisfaction; then drop basket bag and hats and what ever follows.
...the...full of leaf...opening gives you an interesting double entendre. Begs the questions, is the writer or the scene full of leaf. I also like specificity of Beneath 18 Cherry Trees.
Nice poem.
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Post by Ron Buck (halfshell) on Jan 3, 2009 13:34:27 GMT -5
I really loved this... and I do agree with the suggestions leo posted... I would get rid of "and" in the and the strong sun stanza and the first "with" in the country loaf stanza. I would replace again "with" with "a" in
across the way lies the sea with dark clouds above a shining line;
you might play around with your kicker a bit... but it is hardy as is...
perhaps change "forth and back" to "back-and-forth", to make it one motion and easy on the readers image process...anyway that's how my mind "pictured" it.
lovely rendition and nice flow and a tip of the cap!
tidings ron
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Post by Sherry Thrasher on Jan 3, 2009 21:28:32 GMT -5
Let me count the ways that I love this poem... Maggie and I were sitting around the supper table and this poem has inspired poetic conversation. Perhaps:
Well before autumn...
a breeze twirls the leaves as white clouds pass before uncommon blue
beneath eighteen cherry trees full of leaf – we flick and fluff until the rug lands entirely to her satisfaction; then drop basket, bag and hats and whatever follows.
and perhaps
the nearby Labrador follows every move of the bobbin’ pigeon as it steps forth then back; his hanging tongue follows along just like me – kept at bay by the grey about the jowls.
Wonderful poem, really a wonderful poem and I simply swooned at:
beneath eighteen cherry trees full of leaf – we flick and fluff until the rug lands entirely to her satisfaction;
Sherry (and Maggie too!)
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Post by alfredo on Jan 3, 2009 23:37:36 GMT -5
Sherry, I simply don’t believe Maggie said that too!! Haha. Well, what a nice Xmas (sorry New Year) gift from the US (emerald isle too) to ‘lil ol’ NZ . So many ( too many for me to take) responses. And lovely suggestions from such rich Poets…a humble thanks.
I looked through what Sherry had changed and I liked it too but I also like Leo's, supported by Ron’s, suggestions. Wait I will be back soon to wring the changes.
Sherry, have I got you right? Leave this out ...
country loaf, toast sliced, thickly spread with avocado with fresh pepper sprinkling; icy melon finishing, and at my knee earl gray tea and a circle of waimata brie warming under its golden wrap
Perhaps I could be wear the lion's headdress = be called a Poet). Have I killed the lion (no, I have never published nor attempted to publish)?....Nah I’m dreamin’agin
BTW its seriously summer here guys hence Picnic theme(s)
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Post by Sherry Thrasher on Jan 3, 2009 23:57:57 GMT -5
That would be a huge mistake to leave out the menu! That should certainly stay as is. Just thought about edits in the areas mentioned. Maggie is in the south right now and I am giving proper instruction on the "swoon" technique for future use. We need to teach those Yankees after all!
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