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Post by alfredo on Mar 29, 2008 15:29:33 GMT -5
long shadows roll paper cups along the shore
skies modify smokey to sharp
by six, land and cloud silhouette
birds flap as joggers pass
at seven, volcanic pink across the heaven
a brown man without haste spears and places all we hate in a dark plastic space
an incrementing diamond sets alight Achilles Point golden lines across the sea all the way to me
by eight, all's replaced by dappled white – beautifully spaced
no need to face the east
to the army of people whom, before dawn, clean up after us all. Achilles Point = elevated sea vantage
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Post by MichaelFirewalker on Mar 31, 2008 12:26:11 GMT -5
alfredo----you have some excellent and acutely visual images here----having spent a lot of time at sea, I can really relate to the long, slow procession of changes you describe as day moves into night----I lke the way you used rhyme----I like the flow----here's my fav S:
"golden lines across the sea all the way to me"
that is sooo real, michael
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Post by LynnDoiron on Apr 1, 2008 11:18:04 GMT -5
There is something lovely about time movement through this, alfredo. I like the shifts in color, the changing passage of day. Two small nits for me. The first one is "quietly" in L1. I can't think how else shadows would roll except quietly, AND when I read the line as "Long shadows roll / papercups along the shore" ------ I see the cups rolling there, in the dusk rolling in or the dawn rolling out. Anywho, quietly takes away from the line for me because it tells me what I can already see.
The other little nit for me was the plastic space line; would prefer a black trash bag be called a black trash bag -- All of the time and color changes show a clarity of image, but the trash bag is, well, like "poetically rendered" and that rendering obfuscates.
But I like the poem a lot.
lynn
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Post by alfredo on Apr 1, 2008 19:59:38 GMT -5
Lynn both your points - well made and taken
1. Quietly has quietly nay exited, deftly left
2. But the "space" could be “bin to which the trash bags come to rest prior to transportation”
I confess plastic bag was the original ..so ideas please!!
Some alternatives:
in dark plastic space bags
inside a dark plastic space
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Post by Marion Poirier on Apr 4, 2008 12:49:07 GMT -5
Alfredo, your poetic growth is apparent in this poem. Really sharp images here. I can see the scene vividly. A couple of suggestions for word changes to consider. You really don't need dark space as you have spaced a few lines below. Incrementing diamonds needs to be more connected to following lines and really not needed- but could work with a preposition to join. Merely suggestions to take or leave. Marion
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- long shadows roll
paper cups yesterday's trash along the shore
dark skies modifydissolve to a smokey glaze
by six, land and cloud silhouette
birds seagulls flap as joggers pass
at seven, volcanic pink across the heaven
a brown man without haste spears and places all we hate in a dark space black bags
incrementing diamond vague
soon, Achilles Point is set alight
golden lines across the sea all the way to me
by eight, all's replaced by dappled white – beautifully spaced
no need to face the east
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Post by LynnDoiron on Apr 4, 2008 12:52:02 GMT -5
my gosh, alfredo! great revisons! please don't lose the paper cups, they give me the image and the roll. much enjoyed reading this today, even the dark space failed to bother me at all. lynn
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Post by alfredo on Apr 9, 2008 22:05:36 GMT -5
Thanks Mags and Lynn - flattered you took the time. Forgive me if most but not all, were Incorporated
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Post by alfredo on Apr 28, 2008 22:07:50 GMT -5
Finally ...what was:-
an incrementing diamond
soon, Achilles Point is set alight
is now:- an incrementing diamond sets alight Achilles Point
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Post by Marion Poirier on Apr 29, 2008 14:20:52 GMT -5
Alfredo, this has come a long way since the original.
Beautiful write. I love the way you rewrote verse 7, that was my main concern; it seemed to be tossed it there without a joining phrase before you revised.
BTW: You have me somehow confused with Maggie.
Warm regards, Marion
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Post by mfwilkie on May 2, 2008 13:48:44 GMT -5
What's bothering me about the poem is the opening; the idea of long shadows moving the paper cups.
I know, I know, imagination and all that, but, and I may be too linear, but something moves (I'm thinking sun) to create the long shadows; they don't create themselves.
I think the opening could be improved, 'fredo.
Maggie
long shadows roll paper cups along the shore
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Post by alfredo on May 2, 2008 16:11:46 GMT -5
in the dark before dawn incoming waves appear as moving shadows.....but I do not mean for you to get up early, travel to the beach, to see it the way I did.. thanks Maggie ..will dwell on it more
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Post by mfwilkie on May 3, 2008 2:00:08 GMT -5
'fredo,
For seven years the sound of the sea sang me and mine to sleep.
In less than a minute I was on the sand, and in three, in the water, morning, noon or night.
I can't get a handle on your meaning waves in that first stanza.
Maggie
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