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Post by Marion Poirier on Apr 11, 2008 1:32:06 GMT -5
*Revision 11 - Chgs in Verses 3, 4, 8, and 9 Revision 12 Chg. in V2, L1. V3 added (his) to L1. Thanks for all your help. Comments/questions always welcomed. Note: Please go to Page 2 for more responses when you get to bottom of this page. Thank you. M
homeless veteran - modern free-verse senryu series
morning rain on scarlet and yellow tulips scent of wet grass
white threads scroll across steel-blue birdsong in the cypress
his scratchy voice mars my reverie - change to spare?
the beggar squats sipping mcdonalds coffee - mud-splattered jeans
flag emblem stitched on khaki sleeve - nicotine breath
dark glasses hide his identity whose son is this?
rusty can a plea for help - the stench of poverty
pocket money buys a cheap lunch he blesses me
walking ahead - a gold-domed building overlooks the gardens
high-flying flags cast a long shadow on city streets
M. A. Poirier
4-16-08
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Man Without a Face - Original
Morning rain left a scent of wet grass in the public park. Fresh scarlet and yellow tulips lined flower beds, grown in Boston's greenhouses.
A shaft of sun poked through the lavender sky. Birdsong induced a light aura for reborn spring -
until a hoarse voice rippled the tranquil atmosphere.
Ma'am, can you spare some change?
A man slumped on a bench sipping Starbuck's coffee, mud-splattered jeans and a jacket too large for his sparse frame.
Dark glasses partially covered hollow cheeks in muted light. A heavy stubble of beard and stringy, unwashed hair ensured anonymity.
A swarm of civil servants from the park's subway station scurried at the crosswalk to a gold-domed building.
I fumbled through pockets for loose change - placed a contribution in a rusty can on the bench - oddly embarrassed by the stench of poverty.
God bless you. Bless you, he mumbled
as I hastened toward the work place, its high-flying flags in clear view
and wondered at it all - the inexplicable irony.
M. A. Poirier
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Post by mfwilkie on Apr 11, 2008 8:57:14 GMT -5
Marion,
On a first read through, I like your revision.
Back later.
Maggie
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Post by alfredo on Apr 11, 2008 22:30:53 GMT -5
A few ideas (took me 15 minutes to work out the meaning and relevance of “map” old chap) Faceless in the park morning rain leaves its scent wet grass and freshness about the scarlet and yellow shafts of sun through lavender skies aura for spring reborn and then hoarse across the tranquil from a jacket too large a voice “change to spare?” dark discs over hollowed cheeks above the stubble anonymity stench of poverty I cascade coins and glance away at civil servants scurrying to a gold- domed place “God bless you" the work place, its high-flying flags across the clear view
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Post by Marion Poirier on Apr 11, 2008 22:47:33 GMT -5
Thank you, Alfredo, for your suggestions and version of the work. It certainly sounds more poetic and less of a commentary. That is what I was striving at - not to sound like a newspaper article. I actually like your version better. I like your title also. There is just one little glitch in that parts sound disconnected - it needs a better transition between some of the lines; however, I'm sure I will use some of your ideas. I like the change to the present tense and tightening in places. Thanks so much, Alfredo for your time. Another step forward for this one. Marion
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Post by Marion Poirier on Apr 11, 2008 22:49:30 GMT -5
Thank you, Maggie for taking a look at this. I'll be anticipating your comments and feedback. I appreciate your time.
Regards, Marion
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Post by alfredo on Apr 12, 2008 2:51:44 GMT -5
sorry some stanzas unintentionally cut in half ..should look like this
and then hoarse across the tranquil from a jacket too large a voice “change to spare?”
dark discs over hollowed cheeks above the stubble anonymity stench of poverty
I cascade coins and glance away at civil servants scurrying to a gold- domed place
etc
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Post by Marion Poirier on Apr 12, 2008 12:54:41 GMT -5
Thank you Alfredo for taking so much time and thought with this. I am thinking now of writing it in haibun style - so it will be part prose and part poetry - haiku/senryu style as many of your ideas seem to fit the pattern that can be molded easily into Japanese verse. Although you do have to be sure that the lines are connected at least two out of three, else it will read like a list. I'll have to rewrite this and see how it works- different strokes for different folks - God bless our differences! I like a lot of your ideas. Thanks again, Alfredo, for the inspiration. I'm always ready to listen and accept suggestions.
Best regards, Marion
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Post by mfwilkie on Apr 12, 2008 19:32:33 GMT -5
Marion,
I prefer the series you just posted. It has the intent of your original with tighter language and stronger images.
Maggie
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Post by MichaelFirewalker on Apr 13, 2008 14:19:52 GMT -5
I agree with Mags, and ejoyed this very much----the images in the series at the top are both sharp and tight, which gives the whole thing a clarity that relaxes the reader's awareness-----my only stumble was here:
fumbling through pockets for loose change - he blesses me
it is unclear to me, because of how this is written, who it is that is fumbling through pockets, you or the beggar?
love, michael
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Post by pelos on Apr 13, 2008 15:39:11 GMT -5
Marion I do indeed see the irony - well done my friend - love it. Can't offer any critique it seems with all you've had you have turned this into a real piece of work. Great work I must add. pelos
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Post by Nan on Apr 13, 2008 17:45:46 GMT -5
Marion,
Perhaps you didn’t want to send this one to the top again, but I felt compelled to comment. The time and work you've put into this piece truly shows. This poem is incredible. I love the haiku/senryu format. Each haiku/senryru may stand alone, yet collectively they tell a profound story and bring awareness to the homeless dilemma. Bravo, Marion!
Nan
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Post by ramadevi on Apr 13, 2008 17:54:44 GMT -5
I'm glad Nan sent this forward because i enjoyed the read very much. It is unusual to tell a story in this style. You've don it well.
I especially loved the line "Whose son is this?" (BRILLIANT) and the closing line as well.
WARM REGARDS,
rama devi
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Post by Marion Poirier on Apr 13, 2008 18:21:46 GMT -5
Thank you, Michael, Mags, Pelos, Nan, Rama and of course, Alfredo for the idea to change the format.
By all means, comments are welcome; I'll wait until I receive final comments to thank you all again.
Poetically yours, Marion
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Post by Marion Poirier on Apr 14, 2008 10:23:09 GMT -5
revision 3- changed the order of last 4 stanza's etc. Comments always welcomed.
Thanks, Marion
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Post by Jonathan Morey Weiss-Namaste47 on Apr 14, 2008 12:15:46 GMT -5
I like what you've done with this edit, Marion. The haiku/senryu format lets the reader embrace each triplet individually, allowing the scene to slowly expand, keeping the reader focused on the content within each.
I'm glad to see you posting again, after what seems like quite a long absence. Welcome back.
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Post by Marion Poirier on Apr 15, 2008 3:10:34 GMT -5
Thank you for your comments, Jon. Always good to hear from you. Thank you again, to all who offered suggestions and comments, improving the quality of this poem. I appreciate it and enjoyed my visit.
Good Luck! Marion
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Post by mfwilkie on Apr 15, 2008 19:26:14 GMT -5
Marion,
does this work for you?
wispy clouds scroll across steel-blue— birdsong stirs the cypress
wispy clouds scroll across the steel-blue sky birdsong stirs the cypress
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Post by Marion Poirier on Apr 15, 2008 19:57:34 GMT -5
Thank you, Mags. I like the way you are thinking. That line in S2 - too heavy as it was. I'm getting drunk on these word changes. LOL!
I changed the last 2 senryus also. There should be one fragment among the three lines; however, sometimes they all fit together-not the best way IMO but acceptable.
I appreciate the help. Warm regards, Marion
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Post by mfwilkie on Apr 15, 2008 21:56:55 GMT -5
I was paying attention in class, Marion. Quiet, but paying attention.
In your last line, what about saying:
irony walks with concern
or
irony and concern walk with me
Something like that anyway.
Maggie
I walk toward high-flying stars and stripes - what irony
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Post by Marion Poirier on Apr 16, 2008 21:14:30 GMT -5
Thank you, Maggie for your input. I was kinda plagiarizing Issa in my last take on the ending senryu; however decided to go with strictly show; though you can tell in a senryu when making a statement; but this poem is irony at its extreme. An email I received this morning complaining about all the benefits able-bodied people receive who *have no intention of working, led to my revision - well - the poem tells it all.
Yt, Marion
*I decided not to mention a specific group or groups as it may be considered inflamatory - nor any country or city; this problem is everywhere in the world and well-publicized.
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Post by LynnDoiron on Apr 17, 2008 14:12:28 GMT -5
Interesting poem, Marion. I especially like where it leads, how it ends. Nice work. My only quibble is one you probably should ignore because it has to do with Starbucks and the cost of a cup of coffee, regular, with no fru-fru latte or mocha-chocolateh or frappe nonsense. Putting a homeless person, vet or otherwise, sipping starbucks coffee makes me think the person has money to throw away rather than being hard up. [My adult children get so tired of hearing me complain about Starbucks -- it's sad, really, the way I go on about it!]
Anyway -- thanks for the poem; enjoyed.
lynn
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Post by mfwilkie on Apr 17, 2008 14:47:09 GMT -5
A thought, Marion.
(a) scratchiness ripples through my distance— change to spare?
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Post by Marion Poirier on Apr 17, 2008 15:32:07 GMT -5
Thank you Lynn. Your point is well taken. I've never had a cup of Starbuck's coffee. Mcdonalds is more my price range. Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't know it was so expensive - now I am forewarned-except if somebody else is paying. lol! I will certainly change the brand. Another thing is that he has nicotine fingers-but no matter how poor some people are they still smoke-mostly other people's cigarettes-especially those suffering from nervous conditions. Thank you for the heads up on the coffee.
Warm regards, Marion
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Post by Marion Poirier on Apr 17, 2008 15:41:08 GMT -5
Thank you, Maggie,
There is validity in your suggestion. I like ripples through my distance- better than reverie. I was thinking of my mind being in a state of daydreaming-like it often was on my way to work before my third cup of Mc'Donald's coffee. lol! Reverie does not seem to fit here with the tone and mood of the poem. I'm not that fond of scratchiness - it sounds kind of awkward to my ear - maybe I'll use it another way. I was thinking of scratchy partly because of his nicotine fingers, previously had hoarse voice in one of my revisions. I'll give it more thought. Thanks a bunch! Thanks for coming back to this one.
Warm regards, Marion
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Post by purplejacket on Apr 18, 2008 13:58:14 GMT -5
I like the ending very much, and the more I read it, the more I like the rest of it too.
At first, the opening images didn't seem to belong in this poem, but now I see they're there for contrast.
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Post by mfwilkie on Apr 18, 2008 16:12:50 GMT -5
I like that a lot, Marion.
the beggar scratches through my distance change to spare?
Maggie
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Post by mfwilkie on Apr 18, 2008 16:15:41 GMT -5
Just thinking about this after readiing it again:
I fumble in pockets for a donation - he blesses me
What about:
an exploration of pockets returns a blessing
Maggie
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Post by pelos on Apr 18, 2008 17:54:04 GMT -5
Marion, what atransformation this has taken - me thinks the - after steel blue- is needed as it seems you want the reader to think the bird song is part of the sky - I like the way you ended this with the irony in tact with out spelling it out - me only pic is leave homeless out of the title - Maybe use A Vet sits (somewhere)- homeless is so obvious that to give it away in the title is a let down. Just me thoughts friend, just me thoughts. pelos
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Post by Nan on Apr 20, 2008 7:41:13 GMT -5
Marion, wow, this one has gone through some transformation since my last visit! I like the changes. My only nit, and not that it matters much are stanzas 4 & 8. a beggar squats sipping mcdonalds coffee in mud-splattered jeans I share pocket money for today's caffeine he blesses me Apparently, he was drinking caffeine in stanza 4. Well, who says he only entitled to one cup a day . Perhaps you can use "future", "tomorrow" or completely ignore my statements, for the poem is solid and well-written as is. Nan
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Post by LynnDoiron on Apr 20, 2008 13:30:37 GMT -5
he scratches through my reverie change to spare?
Marion, I wondered about replacing "through" with "scars" ?
he scratches scars my reverie change to spare?
One reason I offer that suggestion is that, as a reader, I feel the impression left by this homeless vet is not one that goes away, that, yes, he scratches through a reverie, but that scratch remains in the mind of the poet/voice -- like a scar, in a way. Just a thought I had when reading your revisions. And scars carries a sort of double-duty as a word, because of the scars vets carry, both visible and unseen . . .
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