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Post by Marion Poirier on Jul 15, 2010 20:47:14 GMT -5
Legacy
crows circle a field of white crosses two women visit a fresh grave
one speaks to the sky - strapped to her back, an infant wails
the elder stands stone-faced
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Legacy
crows circle field of white crosses two women visit a grave
an infant wails strapped to his mother's back she speaks to the sky
the elder stands silent and stone-faced bows her gray head
Marion A. Poirier
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Post by Jonathan Morey Weiss-Namaste47 on Jul 15, 2010 20:59:45 GMT -5
This seems to be a Native American senryu trilogy so to speak, Marion. From death, to infancy, to elder. The cycle is complete, and the legacy lives. Interesting and thought provoking.
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Post by Marion Poirier on Jul 15, 2010 21:10:03 GMT -5
Thank you, so much, Jon. for your insiteful review. This is a haiku/senyru trilogy piece (or a short poem.)
I've been trained in the HSA tradition and we don't distinquish senyru from haiku as human nature is part of nature.
This is about a young soldier, husband/father/son killed in combat. (rows of white crosses)
Thank you, my friend, for your gracious response.
My best, Marion
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Post by alfredo on Jul 17, 2010 2:33:31 GMT -5
Theory and ritual pattern are not too important to me but the simplicity, concentrated images, their completeness, appealed.
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Post by Marion Poirier on Jul 17, 2010 8:17:38 GMT -5
Alfredo,
Thank you for your comments. I'm not putting a label on this one, as to form. It began as a longer poem, and eventually shortened to nine lines that resembles a haiku/senryu triology. Everyone has their own conception of the form so I'll leave it as a short poem.
Marion
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Post by mfwilkie on Jul 17, 2010 12:04:15 GMT -5
M,
Been thinking about these for a couple of days and keep hearing the first two in two lines, the third in one:
crows circle a field of white crosses two women visit a grave
strapped to his mother's back the infant wails she speaks to the sky
the elder bows a face made of stone
Maggie
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Post by Marion Poirier on Jul 17, 2010 14:37:04 GMT -5
Thanks Maggie.
I like combining the lines as you suggested. Made some changes based on your comments.
Best, Marion
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Post by mfwilkie on Jul 18, 2010 8:55:59 GMT -5
I like the addition of fresh, M, it gives the image balance. Especially like what you did in the second.
The third is a little flat, still. Since words are at a premium, I think using elder and grey is like repeating yourself.
What about:
the elder bows a face made of stone.
It's not enough for two lines, but honestly, M, I don't think you need it. Anything else would be just fill, don't you think?
Maggie
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Post by Marion Poirier on Jul 18, 2010 10:42:33 GMT -5
Thanks Maggie,
I agree with the redundancy of elder and gray; also, less is definitely more in this work. I prefer "stone-faced" to "face made of stone."
Thanks again for your help.
M
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Post by determinedtofail on Jul 18, 2010 23:35:09 GMT -5
I especially like your poem about the train the smoke and the palm on the window. IMO let your scene design itself, has more wabi sabi that way. Here is a suggestion, but I think I left out the other women carrying the child on her back.
Crows circle a field of white crosses.
Two women next to a fresh grave.
The infant wails to the sky The mother stares into the ground.
--Austin
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Post by Marion Poirier on Jul 19, 2010 6:42:37 GMT -5
Thanks Austin,
Mother rather than elder is an idea.
I'm trying to say something in that line Each reader will interpret it in his/her own way. I'm told that it's the author's responsibility to lead but minds don't work the same way nor do we react the same way. I would probably be looking at the grave also.
M
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Post by mfwilkie on Jul 19, 2010 13:19:42 GMT -5
Along the lines of cutting more to intensify image, M.
crows circle a field of white crosses two women visit a fresh grave
one speaks to the sky - strapped to her back, an infant wails
the elder stands stone-faced
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Post by Marion Poirier on Jul 19, 2010 15:02:28 GMT -5
YES!
I like this version, Maggie. The removal of the unnecessary words in L3, great idea. Also verb change in last line perfect for "in the moment" image.
THANX! Appreciate your time.
M
crows circle a field of white crosses two women visit a fresh grave
one speaks to the sky - strapped to her back, an infant wails
the elder stands stone-faced
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